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MacOs Ventura13 on vBox in Suse on generic x86_64?
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bad sector
2023-04-16 00:40:04 UTC
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Ref: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=92649

Is this possible at all?

Any tutorials?

Though new to vBox I notice that any Linux distro can be installed as a
vBox 'guest' on any hardware running any other OS as 'host' but it's not
so easy vice versa. Are the proprietary vendors cutting their own
throats seeing that this trend favors the spread of Linux? :-)
Malcolm
2023-04-16 02:53:26 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:40:04 -0400
Post by bad sector
Ref: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=92649
Is this possible at all?
Any tutorials?
Though new to vBox I notice that any Linux distro can be installed as
a vBox 'guest' on any hardware running any other OS as 'host' but
it's not so easy vice versa. Are the proprietary vendors cutting
their own throats seeing that this trend favors the spread of Linux?
:-)
Hi
Not sure about vBox, I use qemu and have Ventura 13 (and some
others) running fine on Tumbleweed....
<https://forums.opensuse.org/t/march-2023-screenshots/164916/7>
<https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM>

I made a number of changes to the script for my setup here...
--
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bad sector
2023-04-16 03:11:00 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:40:04 -0400
Post by bad sector
Ref: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=92649
Is this possible at all?
Any tutorials?
Though new to vBox I notice that any Linux distro can be installed as
a vBox 'guest' on any hardware running any other OS as 'host' but
it's not so easy vice versa. Are the proprietary vendors cutting
their own throats seeing that this trend favors the spread of Linux?
:-)
Hi
Not sure about vBox, I use qemu and have Ventura 13 (and some
others) running fine on Tumbleweed....
<https://forums.opensuse.org/t/march-2023-screenshots/164916/7>
<https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM>
I made a number of changes to the script for my setup here...
I shudda said I'm new to all virtual machine topics, not just vBox

Are you running quemu on a Mac?

If not, does your qemu-vMac handle usb drivers just as if it were a real
Mac?
Malcolm
2023-04-16 03:28:02 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:11:00 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:40:04 -0400
Post by bad sector
Ref: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=92649
Is this possible at all?
Any tutorials?
Though new to vBox I notice that any Linux distro can be installed
as a vBox 'guest' on any hardware running any other OS as 'host'
but it's not so easy vice versa. Are the proprietary vendors
cutting their own throats seeing that this trend favors the spread
of Linux? :-)
Hi
Not sure about vBox, I use qemu and have Ventura 13 (and some
others) running fine on Tumbleweed....
<https://forums.opensuse.org/t/march-2023-screenshots/164916/7>
<https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM>
I made a number of changes to the script for my setup here...
I shudda said I'm new to all virtual machine topics, not just vBox
Are you running quemu on a Mac?
If not, does your qemu-vMac handle usb drivers just as if it were a
real Mac?
Hi
No openSUSE Tumbleweed is the host operating system (as per signature
;)).

As in connecting an iPhone or other apple devices?

It should be no issues with qemu, just need the USB device ID's.

I'm using 8 cores and 32GB of RAM for the qemu machine, a sluggish with
4 cores...

What hardware and operating system are you planning to use?
--
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
Tumbleweed 20230414 | GNOME Shell 44.0 | 6.2.10-1-default
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bad sector
2023-04-16 03:41:53 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:11:00 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:40:04 -0400
Post by bad sector
Ref: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=92649
Is this possible at all?
Any tutorials?
Though new to vBox I notice that any Linux distro can be installed
as a vBox 'guest' on any hardware running any other OS as 'host'
but it's not so easy vice versa. Are the proprietary vendors
cutting their own throats seeing that this trend favors the spread
of Linux? :-)
Hi
Not sure about vBox, I use qemu and have Ventura 13 (and some
others) running fine on Tumbleweed....
<https://forums.opensuse.org/t/march-2023-screenshots/164916/7>
<https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM>
I made a number of changes to the script for my setup here...
I shudda said I'm new to all virtual machine topics, not just vBox
Are you running quemu on a Mac?
If not, does your qemu-vMac handle usb drivers just as if it were a
real Mac?
Hi
No openSUSE Tumbleweed is the host operating system (as per signature
;)).
As in connecting an iPhone or other apple devices?
It should be no issues with qemu, just need the USB device ID's.
I'm using 8 cores and 32GB of RAM for the qemu machine, a sluggish with
4 cores...
What hardware and operating system are you planning to use?
OMG, I thought me king shit with 16gb's.. my aging iron is AMD-8-core
with 16gb ram and I believe 8gb nvidia graphics.

All "I" really wanna do is jam along with Boss guitar effect-boards
(me80 and hopefully gt-1000) that require usb service for the drivers
and bundleware ..but in a virtual box. The maker supplies drivers for
doze and mac only (surprise).

I notice that qemu is installed on my suse distro, so depending on
confidence maybe I should investigate.
Malcolm
2023-04-16 03:54:30 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:41:53 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:11:00 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:40:04 -0400
Post by bad sector
Ref: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=92649
Is this possible at all?
Any tutorials?
Though new to vBox I notice that any Linux distro can be
installed as a vBox 'guest' on any hardware running any other OS
as 'host' but it's not so easy vice versa. Are the proprietary
vendors cutting their own throats seeing that this trend favors
the spread of Linux? :-)
Hi
Not sure about vBox, I use qemu and have Ventura 13 (and some
others) running fine on Tumbleweed....
<https://forums.opensuse.org/t/march-2023-screenshots/164916/7>
<https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM>
I made a number of changes to the script for my setup here...
I shudda said I'm new to all virtual machine topics, not just vBox
Are you running quemu on a Mac?
If not, does your qemu-vMac handle usb drivers just as if it were a
real Mac?
Hi
No openSUSE Tumbleweed is the host operating system (as per
signature ;)).
As in connecting an iPhone or other apple devices?
It should be no issues with qemu, just need the USB device ID's.
I'm using 8 cores and 32GB of RAM for the qemu machine, a sluggish
with 4 cores...
What hardware and operating system are you planning to use?
OMG, I thought me king shit with 16gb's.. my aging iron is AMD-8-core
with 16gb ram and I believe 8gb nvidia graphics.
All "I" really wanna do is jam along with Boss guitar effect-boards
(me80 and hopefully gt-1000) that require usb service for the drivers
and bundleware ..but in a virtual box. The maker supplies drivers for
doze and mac only (surprise).
I notice that qemu is installed on my suse distro, so depending on
confidence maybe I should investigate.
Hi
I run lots of virtual machines and the Tesla P4... 12cores/24threads
128GB of ECC RAM ;) I need to upgrade to a 18/36 v4 cpu...

You need an intel cpu for it to work, I would suggest using Windows
with KVM/Libvirt, in virt-manager it is easier to add your USB devices
on the fly...
--
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
Tumbleweed 20230414 | GNOME Shell 44.0 | 6.2.10-1-default
HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2690 V3 X24 @ 2.60GHz | Nvidia Quadro T400/Tesla P4
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bad sector
2023-04-16 21:45:54 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:41:53 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:11:00 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:40:04 -0400
Post by bad sector
Ref: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=92649
Is this possible at all?
Any tutorials?
Though new to vBox I notice that any Linux distro can be
installed as a vBox 'guest' on any hardware running any other OS
as 'host' but it's not so easy vice versa. Are the proprietary
vendors cutting their own throats seeing that this trend favors
the spread of Linux? :-)
Hi
Not sure about vBox, I use qemu and have Ventura 13 (and some
others) running fine on Tumbleweed....
<https://forums.opensuse.org/t/march-2023-screenshots/164916/7>
<https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM>
I made a number of changes to the script for my setup here...
I shudda said I'm new to all virtual machine topics, not just vBox
Are you running quemu on a Mac?
If not, does your qemu-vMac handle usb drivers just as if it were a
real Mac?
Hi
No openSUSE Tumbleweed is the host operating system (as per
signature ;)).
As in connecting an iPhone or other apple devices?
It should be no issues with qemu, just need the USB device ID's.
I'm using 8 cores and 32GB of RAM for the qemu machine, a sluggish
with 4 cores...
What hardware and operating system are you planning to use?
OMG, I thought me king shit with 16gb's.. my aging iron is AMD-8-core
with 16gb ram and I believe 8gb nvidia graphics.
All "I" really wanna do is jam along with Boss guitar effect-boards
(me80 and hopefully gt-1000) that require usb service for the drivers
and bundleware ..but in a virtual box. The maker supplies drivers for
doze and mac only (surprise).
I notice that qemu is installed on my suse distro, so depending on
confidence maybe I should investigate.
Hi
I run lots of virtual machines and the Tesla P4... 12cores/24threads
128GB of ECC RAM ;) I need to upgrade to a 18/36 v4 cpu...
You need an intel cpu for it to work, I would suggest using Windows
with KVM/Libvirt, in virt-manager it is easier to add your USB devices
on the fly...
I'm locked to my AMD cpu for a while and 128gb of ECC ram doesn't even
make it into my dreams :-)))

But I've just had some success with the new vBox7 (see my posts under
alt.os.linux). I've managed to get a usb driver to work, all I need now
is to be able to virtualize either w10 or MacVentura.
Malcolm
2023-04-17 01:16:56 UTC
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bad sector <***@_INVALID_.net> wrote:
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Post by bad sector
I'm locked to my AMD cpu for a while and 128gb of ECC ram doesn't
even make it into my dreams :-)))
But I've just had some success with the new vBox7 (see my posts under
alt.os.linux). I've managed to get a usb driver to work, all I need
now is to be able to virtualize either w10 or MacVentura.
Hi
I would suggest windows 10 then, 4 cores and 8GB of ram should suffice.

Just add the windows 10 iuso image and follow the wizard and should be
good to go. Watch out for kernel updates as vBox may break if not
rebuilt against a newer kernel (don't have to worry about that with
kvm/libvirt).
--
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
Tumbleweed 20230415 | GNOME Shell 44.0 | 6.2.10-1-default
HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2690 V3 X24 @ 2.60GHz | Nvidia Quadro T400/Tesla P4
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bad sector
2023-04-17 03:18:45 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 17:45:54 -0400
<snip>
Post by bad sector
I'm locked to my AMD cpu for a while and 128gb of ECC ram doesn't
even make it into my dreams :-)))
But I've just had some success with the new vBox7 (see my posts under
alt.os.linux). I've managed to get a usb driver to work, all I need
now is to be able to virtualize either w10 or MacVentura.
Hi
I would suggest windows 10 then, 4 cores and 8GB of ram should suffice.
Just add the windows 10 iuso image and follow the wizard and should be
good to go. Watch out for kernel updates as vBox may break if not
rebuilt against a newer kernel (don't have to worry about that with
kvm/libvirt).
I have this stinking habbit of spreading issues over different
posts/ng's! KVM is on my check-it-out list.

Managed to install w10 only once (off-line) out of 10 tries, it mostly
complains about missing files (strange because it did work once). That
lone (off-line) install that did work then broke when it subsequently
went on-line.

But I have also tried the Gt1000 (from other related posts) usb driver
installation in the w7 vBox even though I don't have the Gt1000 (yet).
It followed the same path as for the Me80 so I'm confident that I'm good
with just the w7 vBox (for now).
Malcolm
2023-04-17 12:04:48 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:18:45 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 17:45:54 -0400
<snip>
Post by bad sector
I'm locked to my AMD cpu for a while and 128gb of ECC ram doesn't
even make it into my dreams :-)))
But I've just had some success with the new vBox7 (see my posts
under alt.os.linux). I've managed to get a usb driver to work, all
I need now is to be able to virtualize either w10 or MacVentura.
Hi
I would suggest windows 10 then, 4 cores and 8GB of ram should suffice.
Just add the windows 10 iuso image and follow the wizard and should
be good to go. Watch out for kernel updates as vBox may break if not
rebuilt against a newer kernel (don't have to worry about that with
kvm/libvirt).
I have this stinking habbit of spreading issues over different
posts/ng's! KVM is on my check-it-out list.
Managed to install w10 only once (off-line) out of 10 tries, it
mostly complains about missing files (strange because it did work
once). That lone (off-line) install that did work then broke when it
subsequently went on-line.
But I have also tried the Gt1000 (from other related posts) usb
driver installation in the w7 vBox even though I don't have the
Gt1000 (yet). It followed the same path as for the Me80 so I'm
confident that I'm good with just the w7 vBox (for now).
Hi
Have a read here for KVM/Libvirt and Windows 11, same sort of steps for
Windows 10 <https://getlabsdone.com/how-to-install-windows-11-on-kvm/>
--
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
Tumbleweed 20230416 | GNOME Shell 44.0 | 6.2.10-1-default
HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2690 V3 X24 @ 2.60GHz | Nvidia Quadro T400/Tesla P4
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bad sector
2023-04-20 00:25:13 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:18:45 -0400
Post by bad sector
Post by Malcolm
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 17:45:54 -0400
<snip>
Post by bad sector
I'm locked to my AMD cpu for a while and 128gb of ECC ram doesn't
even make it into my dreams :-)))
But I've just had some success with the new vBox7 (see my posts
under alt.os.linux). I've managed to get a usb driver to work, all
I need now is to be able to virtualize either w10 or MacVentura.
Hi
I would suggest windows 10 then, 4 cores and 8GB of ram should suffice.
Just add the windows 10 iuso image and follow the wizard and should
be good to go. Watch out for kernel updates as vBox may break if not
rebuilt against a newer kernel (don't have to worry about that with
kvm/libvirt).
I have this stinking habbit of spreading issues over different
posts/ng's! KVM is on my check-it-out list.
Managed to install w10 only once (off-line) out of 10 tries, it
mostly complains about missing files (strange because it did work
once). That lone (off-line) install that did work then broke when it
subsequently went on-line.
But I have also tried the Gt1000 (from other related posts) usb
driver installation in the w7 vBox even though I don't have the
Gt1000 (yet). It followed the same path as for the Me80 so I'm
confident that I'm good with just the w7 vBox (for now).
Hi
Have a read here for KVM/Libvirt and Windows 11, same sort of steps for
Windows 10 <https://getlabsdone.com/how-to-install-windows-11-on-kvm/>
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