Software Updates

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
started manually.

In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
update", annoying but no big deal.

Now we come to the actual problem, there are times when I'd like to tell
it "look again, now" but there appears to be no way to actually do this.

My workaround is "sudo zypper patch --with-update" followed by a "2" for
"Do Not Update the package I have frozen", and then accept whatever else
it has to offer.
I had thought of killing the Software Update process but I can't even
find it using "ps aux". The package is "plasma5-pk-updates", the
Summary says "Software Update Manager for Plasma". The File List for
the package is not particularly helpful when it comes to identifying the
running process either.

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[Carlos E.R.]

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son
This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
started manually.
In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
update", annoying but no big deal.

Uninstall it.

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Post by Carlos E.R.

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son
This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
started manually.
In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
update", annoying but no big deal.

Uninstall it.

Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully - better
idea.
I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a couple
of minutes before I want to close the machine down.

[Carlos E.R.]

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son

Post by Carlos E.R.

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son
This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
started manually.
In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
update", annoying but no big deal.

Uninstall it.

Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully - better
idea.
I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a couple
of minutes before I want to close the machine down.

I uninstall it, because I object to the default that every user can see
and trigger updates. It also is not a good idea to have it by default on
a laptop that can be used in metered Internet connections.

Worse, Gnome had the trick to download the things in advance, by
default, before you accepted them, with the goal of saving time when you
decided to click "update".

If you go the uninstall route, you also have mark it blacklisted or
banned, or a dependency would install it again.

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Post by Carlos E.R.

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son

Post by Carlos E.R.

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son
This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
started manually.
In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have
set the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores
that). This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I
have an update", annoying but no big deal.

Uninstall it.

Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully -
better idea.
I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a couple
of minutes before I want to close the machine down.

I uninstall it, because I object to the default that every user can see
and trigger updates. It also is not a good idea to have it by default on
a laptop that can be used in metered Internet connections.
Worse, Gnome had the trick to download the things in advance, by
default, before you accepted them, with the goal of saving time when you
decided to click "update".
If you go the uninstall route, you also have mark it blacklisted or
banned, or a dependency would install it again.

One of the settings controls downloads over metered connections, the
default is OFF. Since "every user" is "me" on this machine, I can live
with the shame.
It could be worse, Windows 10 (and presumably 11) don't even ask.
Updates take several hours on my Windows machine, basically because I
hardly ever boot Windows instead of Linux there.

[Carlos E.R.]

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son

Post by Carlos E.R.

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son

Post by Carlos E.R.

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son
This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also
be started manually.
In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have
set the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores
that). This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I
have an update", annoying but no big deal.

Uninstall it.

Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully -
better idea.
I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a
couple of minutes before I want to close the machine down.

I uninstall it, because I object to the default that every user can
see and trigger updates. It also is not a good idea to have it by
default on a laptop that can be used in metered Internet connections.
Worse, Gnome had the trick to download the things in advance, by
default, before you accepted them, with the goal of saving time when
you decided to click "update".
If you go the uninstall route, you also have mark it blacklisted or
banned, or a dependency would install it again.

One of the settings controls downloads over metered connections, the
default is OFF.

No such setting in XFCE.

Refresh cache (always/every hour/every 8 hours/twice a
day/*daily*/weekly/never)

[ ] Use mobile connection

Since "every user" is "me" on this machine, I can live

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son
with the shame.

It is a matter of principle for me, but I do have some other users. Same
person (me), but different purposes. Some times I lend a machine to a
guest. It is pointless to have all of them doing the check.

Post by Don Spam's Reckless Son
It could be worse, Windows 10 (and presumably 11) don't even ask.
Updates take several hours on my Windows machine, basically because I
hardly ever boot Windows instead of Linux there.

In Windows 10 you can say that the connection is metered, somewhere.